In Defense of Homo-Thugs
Yikes. Frank Leon Roberts carelessly writes an article in defense of Black gay men hiding their sexual status. The new word for these guys are "DL's" because they keep their homosexuality on the down low.
Roberts explains:
African American men who are on the D.L., "down-low," have sex with men unbeknownst to their girlfriends (if they have one) and families. They don't consider themselves gay, and they identify with hip-hop despite the music's homophobia. They've been a source of controversy in the black community.
Ok, cool. Read on...
The controversy swings from seeing the D.L. brother as the primary spreader of AIDS in the "mainstream" black community to an insistence that they "come out of the closet" so they can be "out and proud." But as the brother at the train station told me, he was out, but in a new kind of way. Moreover, he was going to get his groove on at the sex party, safely.Pause this for a second. Coming out on the "DL" is not really coming out at all. And it's definatley not proud.
...Behind these AIDS fears lies the heterosexist assumption that AIDS is born and bred in gay communities and then venomously spread outward. Much of the anti-D.L. rhetoric from the black media hides the painful fact that many straight black women and men are HIV-positive and spread the disease among themselves, without any help from "evil" gay black men."Heterosexist assumption"? Negro please. CNN reported how Black male gays, bisexuals hit hard by HIV. The article cites a study that says gay Black men are "five times more likely to become HIV-infected than their white counterparts" and the CDC's Dr. Helene Gayle says, "Young gay and bisexual men are at the highest risk for HIV in this country." The AIDS epidemic amongst them (and us in general) needs more light to be shed on it, not more secrecy. Roberts continues...
D.L. brothers are often no more insecure about their sexuality than anyone else. They've just embraced a low-key, mellow style that lets them admit to same-sex desires without necessarily coming out in the traditional sense. They "come out" as D.L.This guy must be really grappling with the shame of his own sexuality. Why would he condone being ashamed of yourself and living a lie? Being gay in the hip-hop community is difficult and even dangerous, yes. But homo-thugs or DL's or whatever they're calling themselves now are not just hiding it from their girlfriends and wives (which is not fair to these women) but also their doctors. They aren't getting the targeted health care advice and treatment as their gay, White, and proud counterparts. And this is dangerous for everyone involved.
**I'm keeping track of this story. Read the giant NY Times article "Double Lives on the Down Low" and great commentary on gay rappers by Trent
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WHOEVER POSTED THIS ARTICLE DISSINF DL BRUTHAS IS INSECURE WITH HIS WON SEXUALITY
FIRST OFF JUST CAUSE YOU OPEN DONT MEAN OTHERS HAVE TO BE PROVE TO US THAT BEING DL SURELY ISNT PROUD YOU CANT CAUSE YOU ARENT NO ONE ELSE WHATS WORKS FOR YOU DOESN FOR OTHERS THATS YOU OPENLY GAY MENS PROBLEM YOUR SO WORRIED ABOUT WHAT A DL MAN DOES AND NOT CONCERNED WITH YOUR OWN LITTLE LIVES YOU BECOME SUB CONSCIOUSLY SWARE THAT YOUR ACTUALLY INSECURE ABOUT YOUR SEXUALITY
THE FACT IS YOU HAVE A PROBLEM AGAINST A MAN CAUSE HA CNAGED UP THE GAY LIFESTYLE YOUR USED TO LIVING UP
DID YOU EVEN READ THOSE NUMBERS 10 NEW MEN BECOME AFFECTED A YEAR THERE ARE MILLIONS MORE DL BRUTHAS THAN THERE ARE EVEN OPENLY GAY BRUTHAS AND 15 IS A VERY SMALL NUMBER
YOU OPENLY GAYS ARE GONNA ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THE DL LIFESTYLE EXIST AND MOST MEN HAVE OR WILL REMAIN DL TO AN EXTENT CAUSE THE OPENLY GAY SHIT IS PLAYED
YOU GOT TO BE ONE STUPID ASS TO THINK JUST CAUSE YOU TELL PEOPLE ON THE STREET YOUR GAY OR BISEXUAL MAKES YOU FREE AND SECURE PPLLEEASEEE
EVERYONE HAS THERE OWN SELF PRIDE ALL PRIDE ISNT THE SAME THATS A FACT IF SOMEONE ASK A DL MAN IF HE IS GAY AND HE SAYS NO BUT KNOWS TO HIMSELF HE IS A BISEXUAL BROTHER THEN HE AINT LYING TO HIMSELF SO WHAT HE LIED TO THE NEXT PERSON WHO GIVES A DAMN THEY SHOULDNT BE SO NOSEY AS FAR AS THE WOMEN WE FUCK ARE CONCERNED IF I PLAN ON BEING IN A RELATIONSIP OR MARRIAGE WITH A WOMAN THAN SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO KNOW I AINT FAITHFUL BUT ANY BROAD I USUAL FUCK ON RARE OCCASIONS ALL SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO KNOW IS MY HIV AND STD STATUS
Posted by: OPENLY GAYS SUCK at Aug 31, 2003 2:21:41 AM
I read the article.
It seems both points are logical.I
actually think both arguements make
sense. DL men that act straight,
having sex with women, then having
sex with men, are more at risk of
spreading STDs to their girlfriend,
and their male partner.
I also feel that if a man wants to
be a certain way, let him be that
way. We cannot judge man, but God
knows all of man's secrets. Let DL
men abuse their bodies with sex from
man and women, for they will have
their reward. Just as gay men abuse
their bodies with other men, we all
will reap what we soe.
Also, just because a man is not
openly gay, this does not mean that
he is ashamed. There are some things
people don't want you to know.They
have the right on God's earth to
live the life they desire, good or
bad.
Thank you for letting me share my
thoughts.
Posted by: Jeffrey at Sep 10, 2003 4:38:13 PM
men on the dl go back to when i was a teenager. i come from a neighborhood that was rich in athlete's,and other talented kids.as
a teenager, we engaged in what i never was able to shake from my memory, msm, we had to guys in the
neighborhood that were not athletic.
we noticed that some of the athletes
would sometime be hard to find in the neighborhood when we were either
going to practice or playing games, we all hung together all the time and
sometimes at night some would disappear and we couldn't find them.
one friend in particular was a good friend of mine from 4yr. old and up.
the other kids moved into the neighborhood anywhere from 4th-7th grade. we were all poor but some of
was raised by grandparents so there was a lot of things that we were not exposed to and sex was one them.i
was an honor roll student and the best athlete around, that's all did.
when my best friend got behind in
school, he was in classes with a lot of these kids, we all the same age,
some of them just fell behind. the more they got involved in this dl
style the more insecure i became about myself, you see i didn't know
what was going on and the only time everyone was around me was when we were playing sports. i was always
popular and couldn't figure it out.
i started thinking maybe i was over-
weight or something and i started
working out to lose weight. well i
was already one of the smallest in
height and weight was not a problem,
so i only increased muscle mass. i
guess the temptation got a little to
strong for some of them and they
thought they would let me in on their
secret. my best friend covered my eyes and walked me in and when he let
go of my eyes it was an upstairs filled with jocks having sex with 2
gay guys that were out of the closet.
it blew me away, i refused ti engage
but my best friend said if people
here of him they would include my name anyway. so they encouraged me to
let a guy perform oral sex on me.
i was depressed for weeks and months,
didn't feel good about myself. i didn't want to use the same dishes or
touch anything that my family had to
use. i was involved a few more times
before high school, but everyone else
seemed to enjoy it and had no problem
with it. my best friend was so hooked on it he was getting done by
guys before and after school, and he
was known as the ladies man, girls
fought over him all the time and had no idea he was doing guys. in high
school i stayed as far a way from as
i could, to keep out of this life, it
even got so bad that the guys in the neighborhoob thought that i was telling thier secrets to new friends
when it was all over the city. it was a big fight that involved a lot
of people and the only thing that
saved me from the fight was that my
best friend knew that i wouldn't dare
tell a soul because of how ashamed i was. i still respect all of them, i
just don't put myself in a situation to be alone with any of them because
they still bragg about this lifestyle. they have a lot of respect for me to get away from it
so early and stay away. i suffer know
with nightmares, i can't hold a seriuos relationship because every
woman i run into has slept with one
of these friends that are msm also.
i fear aids, i have a child and that
happened as a young adult while drinking heavy to hide the shame. it's been 10 years since i last had sex because i do not want hurt a woman with the things that happened so many years ago. i will not let
people get close to me because i don't want people to associate them
with this lifestyle. i thank god for
my family, co-workers, and past roommates because i was anything but nice around them. i try to distance
them so that knowone will ever bother
them. i met a friend 8years ago, i
did trust him, i found through a mutual female friend that he was on the dl and msm.we had a terrible breakup as friends when he heard about the rumors, i told him that it was not what i was into so i just
never mentioned it to him. for years
he would follow me around and every male that he saw hangin with he thought it ment we were on the dl, and when he found out he wrong he
became vindictive and vengful. i will
never act as i did at the ages of 13-14yrs. old, i am still carrying the shame and guilt. please encourage people to other go the other way
or leave women alone, they are sufferring physically, mentally. it's
not fair to them or your family, and
other friends that will get acused for your lifestyle. i make it day by
day because of my religiuos upbringing, but my life will never
be the same because what i let myself get involved with. i would rather go to my grave alone, than to
ruin someone elses life. a lot guys
do it, they brag about it, and beat
their wives for wanting to leave them. i don't think it's love, i just think that they got caught up
in pleasure and now it's a hard habit
to break. some guys have even tried
to invite me after they have sought
out a female for a threesome. i
committed my sin, i have repent a long time ago, i am off the alcohol,
and i still see this action everyday
when i go out. i haven't been involved since being a teen and people still approches me, it amazes
me, but i am keeping to myself. their
is no such thing as sleeping with a
man and not be gay, i have not engaged but a times over 20yrs. ago
and i still suffer from the effects.
i am 34yrs. old. god bless you' and
it's up to you to make your own decisions, the lord still loves you,
and remember we all are not perfect.
Posted by: d.j. at Sep 15, 2003 1:59:38 PM
The article was aiight...I am openly gay, I dont floss it like jewelry but I'll let you know if you ask. Its not that serious unless it will hinder my performance in what I am doing or where I am going....Thats just life!
I'm only 22 and I still dont understand how a man can lie to others just because he doesnt feel like dealing with the reprocussions!...Suck that sh**t up!! I'll be damned if I ever become ashamed of what I am..I might not like it but that is a decision I MAKE! You dont have to like me but you WILL give me respect if I give it to you!! Being DL is selfish as hell and SELFISHNESS is the root of EVERY problem in peoples personal relationships!!! Always thinking about yourself instead of reflecting on how you would feel if it was you? And in the case that you sooo nonchalant that stuff like that rolls of you like water...if you KNOW the other ya manz/wifey would feel some type of way...DONT Encourage it!
One
P.S. Shout to Del State! NY for life!
Posted by: Carnell Ambrose at Oct 7, 2003 5:28:22 PM
You know, you're all missing the point. Do what you want to do, however when 3/4 of when reported to be HIV positive are black, you're going to have to accept responsibility. The first manly thing to do is to let these girlfriends and wives know you sleep with other men and often without condoms. Leave it up to the woman to make a choice wether or not to support you in your selfish effort to maintain black patriarcal power within our community and fulfilling sexual desire. As black women, unlike many women in our ethnic culture, I've been aware of this DL culture for many years, and am appalled at the justification of it. Simply appalled. Terribly angry. My duty is to send the NY times article to as many black women as possible. I will make copies and put them on the doorstep of women in highly populated black areas, where I know this men are flourishing because I know some of them. I want black women to ask this question of every man, is he bi-sexual and hiding it, and participating in risky sexual behavior? Should I make him where a condom for this reason, the MAIN reason why we are catching HIV/AIDS at epedmical levels.
Shame on you guys for being on the DL and justifying. Your are not masucline men; you are boys. Openly gay men are men.
Posted by: Lynn at Oct 24, 2003 3:11:29 PM
Here is one of the most open and honest articles about Homo Thugs in Hip Hop culture by NYC native Antonio Torres. The original Xplicit Man. check it out
www.xplicitman.com/politics.htm
Posted by: fabian at Dec 10, 2003 4:29:08 PM
I'm sorry, I jussssssssstttt don't like you.
You can bash me by email or whatever you want to do, let me give you MY PROBLEM.
I am an hiv-NEGATIVE sexually responsible black woman with two children. I was living in a community that seemed overrun with black men who were not gay outwardly but slept with each other in the work place they engaged in the intentional infections of black women HOW U ASK. Well my former employer has been hiv infected since 1985 do you know what he did, him and his lover sheriff friend drew vice checks on women and sent men to intentionally infect them why NO PROFIT GAIN JUST HATE, the sheriff of jacksonville is responsible for using resources to infect over 200 women. What was my responsibility as an FBI agent to report the abuse of saliva testing equiptment.
These HOMO THUGS FILLED MY HOUSE WITH RAW SEWAGE AND CALLED CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES HAD MY KID REMOVE AND TRIED TO HAVE HER RAPED THESE HOMO THUGS ATTEMPTED TO PULL ME INTO BUILDINGS TO SHOOT ME UP WITH INFECTED NEEDLES AND RAPING ME, THEY PAID OFF JUDGES DETECTIVES, AND ATTORNEYS TO STALK ME. WHY BECAUSE SINCE I KNEW THEY WERE INFECTED I WAS NOT TO LEAVE JACKSONVILLE HIV NEGATIVE. IT IS A SICKNESS, AND THIS IS MORE RAMPANT THAN ANYONE CARES TO ADMIT. AND TO CONDONE INDIVIDUALS HIDING THIER STATUS'S AND SEXUALITY IS MORALLY REPRENSIBLE. I HAD TO LEAVE JACKSONVILLE, AND AM STILL BEING STALKED, SO DON'T COME TO ME ABOUT HOMO THUGS THERE IS NO SUCH THING. IT BREEDS HATE AND SHAME, COUPLED WITH DRUG USE AND A HATRED OF WOMEN. THE LIFE GIVERS I AM A LIFE GIVER AND I'VE SEEN THESE HOMOTHUGS MAKE ORPHANS WITH THEIR LIES, SO I'M NOT BUYIN IT!
Posted by: Angelique Jackson at Mar 1, 2004 11:22:19 AM
Sounds like you need to stay off the drugs honey. Sound a little paranoid
People should be able to do what they want and call them selfs what they want. No what would stop it
USE A CONDEM!!!!!!!!
Posted by: what at Mar 24, 2004 3:09:07 PM
ATTENTION ALL HOMOTHUGS/DL'S OK...CUT THE NONSENSE FELLAS...IF YOUR HAVING SEX WITH A MAN YOU ARE GAY...YOU ARE A HOMOSEXUAL..AND PUTTING IT SIMPLE IF SOME ONE SAID U WERE A FAG..U COULDN'T GET MAD...yOU KEEP IT FROM OTHERS BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT RECIEVED WELL BY MOST..ANDIS COMMONLY FELT OTO BE UNMANLY..I AGREE..WEATHER YOU PAY YOURBILLS ONTIME..TAKE CARE OF YOUR WIFE AND KIDS OR HAVE MUSCLES AND A DEEP VOICE..IS NOT THE POINT..YOU FUCK MEN..BEHIND YOUR WIFE/GIRLFRIENDS BACK...YOU HIDE BEHIND YOUR HIPHOP GEAR AND MASCULINE FRONT DENYING YOUR SEXUAL PREFERENCE...YOU HAVE UNSAFE SEX ..YOU BREAK PROMISES AND HEARTS...U TAKE IT IN THE ASS..OR GIVE IT..YOU'RE A PUSSY..I HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR THE OPENLY GAY MAN WHO ACTUALLY HURTS NO ONE BUT HIMSELF AND THOSE WHO ARE AWARE..AND CHOSE NOT TO PROTECT...IF YOU HAVE SUCCUMB TO YOUR SEXUAL URGES AT THE RISK OF HURTING OTHERE..YOU'RE PUSSY..I HAVE SPOKE WITH MANY MEN WHO PRACTICE LIKE THIS AND SOME WERE WRECKLESS FOOLS WHO HAVE A DEEP HATE DISDAIN FOR WOMEN FOR WHATEVER REASON AND CHOOSE DICK/ASS OVA PUSSY...BUT WOULD FUCK A WOMAN RAW JUST BECUZ HE CAN ...SOME WERE IRRESPONSIBLE NAD ACTUALLY LOVE BOTH BUT BUT NOT ENOUGH TO PROTECT EITHER...SOME WERE AS MASCULINE AS ONE GETS...BUT ONLY CHECKED FOR MEN..SOME SAFELY, SOME NOT...AND THEN THERE WERE THOSE WHO WERE WITH WOMEN FIGHTING THE DEMON EVERYDAY..THE DEMON OF LUST FOR MEN..THEY HAVE NO REAL SEXUAL ATTRACTION FOR WOMEN..BUT STAY TO SAVE FACE..THEY HURT INSIDE..AND THE INDIFFERENCE AND LACK OF INTEREST THEY SHOW TOWARDS THEIR WOMAN/WIFE SEXUALLY GETS MORE EVIDENT AND..IS VERY HURTFUL...THERES MORE BUT..BOTTOM LINE..BE TRUE...BE SAFE..AND STOP TRYING TO JUSTIFY THIS BULLSHIT..I SAY FUCK EACH OTHER TO DEATH..IF U CHOOSE..BUT GIVE WOMEN A CHOICE AS TO WEATHER THEY WANNA BE WITH A HOMO...STOP HIDIN LIKE A BITCH....COME OUT AND SAVE SOMEBODY...ONE
Posted by: Pretty at Mar 31, 2004 7:53:17 PM
How true that a thing can be called many names! A man who has sex with a man can only be a homosexual, and many other names as well. . . gay, faggot etc, depending on whether you are trying to put a good or bad slant on it.
To try to gloss over this bare fact with fancy names indicates a lot of hiding . . a tendency to try to forget the shame attached to such things, an attempt to make it even somehow "cool", fashionable. The other bare fact is the disease HIV, leading to the other disease AIDS . . . even the acronyms have taken away the power of the title . . they seem to say HIP or COOL to some. . let's try a few more . . .just for FUN shall we?
DEATH . . .stands for Dare Every Adult To Homosexuality?
or this one . .
DIE . . Do It Everyday . .
but enough with the sick attempts to make humour out of misery . . short point is that if those men, who have a trusting woman, are going to stick their prick into a man or allow the man to arsehole them without first (not after, you cowards!) telling them and giving them a chance to opt out of a potential death sentence, then you deserve to catch whatever may come .. .and you don't deserve to be considered "cool", just stupid and worthy of a slow death. Your women don't though.
Posted by: Sieffe at Apr 5, 2004 4:21:45 PM
The demon of lust; the demon of deciet, the closet; a portal to fleshly decay and spiritual degradation and damnation, no if ands or buts
Posted by: rapture at Apr 6, 2004 8:21:32 PM
Yea, to the DL nothingness that overtakes you and that you become in the eyes of the women you have deceived, have activily sought and fathered children by, one question: Why? It's really sad... my husband really wants to appear so 'normal' to the world. When the fact is, he is so far from normal, hiding, aimlessly searching for the appropriate cover: just DO IT... Come on out. And I'll confirm: no, we won't want you. How difficult can it be? Flip a coin or something, but don't continue to waste our times. Sadly, as I did, I'm certain there are many women who've married and bore children from these hunky, "cosmopolitan" fruitcups. Following my marriage, there were signs..all the tale-tale signs (pardon the pun, for this is certainly no joking matter): unusual amounts of crap in the boxers..., hanging out with an old buddy in our living room, late at night, in the DARK in complete silence. I should have seen it then, but I was truly fogged, given the fact that I thought I was in a healthy, heterosexual relationship. And my main complaint? I didn't NEED you when you (he) came to me. I was already enjoying relationships with two males (one of 10 years and one of 3) following an 8 year marriage...with a man I left due to his semi-abusive nature....
But, my DL husband...I began kicking him out on a regular because he neglected to pay his bills, let alone those of our twin daughters, and definitely not mine, goodness forbid!!! So, yep, it was about a cover, a front....and he'll no doubt, hop to the next woman who will have him (and plenty will)...but only for a short walk in the park, if they are not desparate, as I am (and was) not. Only, sadly, now, we have twin daughters together... I hate that they have a freak for a father...selfish, irresponsible, and incapable of being the complete man that he duplicitously feigned being prior to the "I dos". You masculine DL men aren't masculine at all, just you "mask u li n" take off your masks, and 'you're lying' ...STOP, it's not OUR faults you HATE you, it's YOURS! (Peace to Neil in Cinci!)
Posted by: Marci at Apr 15, 2004 2:27:47 AM
Real DL Homo Thugs wear panties underneath their boxers.
Posted by: Otis R. Pratt at Jul 11, 2004 1:04:25 PM
Real DL Homo Thugs wear panties underneath their boxers.
Posted by: Otis R. Pratt at Jul 11, 2004 1:05:02 PM
Real DL Homo Thugs wear panties underneath their boxers.
Posted by: Otis R. Pratt at Jul 11, 2004 1:05:08 PM
All this homophobia is stupid. Get a life idiots.
Posted by: chillin at Sep 14, 2004 1:53:29 PM
What are the signs of a male beong homo-thug?
I mean how can the women not know?
How did they find out?
What were the men doing so different, that they never knew they were on the DL?
Posted by: Tee at Sep 17, 2004 9:56:32 PM
I have read the article and most of the comments as hard as they were to read. I have a few things to say. Spell check people spell check. DL well I say I would rather be hated for what I am than loved for what I am not. If you take a dick to the head you are gay. You don’t have to do it several times once is enough? you also don’t need to prove anything to anyone if you choose to keep that to yourself than so be it .I don’t see heterosexual men running to tell there women that they are cheating and if they were not running up in these women raw then we would not hear about all the love children of Bill cosby Jesse Jackson Colby usher etc...So is doing it raw the problem obviously not this is just another way for those of us that want to discriminate to do so. Now here is the part I don’t understand if these brothers are dl and they lie to everyone than how do you know they are dl or have HIV what ids there a dl survey somewhere .Also how is coming out pride look at all the celebrities that did it all it does is cause problems I would call that stupidity. If I want to take a dick to the head that’s no ones business but the dick and mine. Did I miss the memo or have we not dispelled that myth that gay men cause and or spread aids. I also was not aware that dl meant unsafe sex some wrap it up and some don’t hetro or homo. Last but not least how can you catch a disease that does not exist (Dr Robert Wilner aids the deadly deception)
Posted by: .taz at Oct 5, 2004 9:58:45 PM
ATTN: Undercover Brothers
I am a sophomore in college and i have a project coming up for my sociology class. My topic is Undercover Brothers and their effect on the black community, black women and HIV. If anyone would be interested in being interviewed to display their own opinions without discretion it would be GREATLY GREATLY appreciated. I can be reached at (718) 304-2773..just leave a message.
Posted by: Karen at Nov 9, 2004 12:16:13 PM
Ive read every single one of the comments that were on here including the one about the twins having a father thats a freak. Bitch it doesnt matter if hes gay or not if hes in the childrens life then thats all that matter since when was the torch of judgement passed to u to come up with the conclusion of whats normal and whats not, ur the one thats fucked right now cuz another man took your man away from u, i wouldnt be surprised if the children called u a freak for gettin defeated by a homo.....lol
Posted by: Ravyien at Nov 17, 2004 10:09:57 AM
I have read all of the postings and i have alot to say but i will sum it up as quickly as possible. I myself am gay. Im not a super queer, nor am i DL at all. i am also hiv positive. Since i found out last year (on world aids day imagine that..) i have done alot of research on the issue of it being spread to women by these DL men.
One of the problems that exsist is that alot of people think that dl men are soley to blame when they are not. Im gay as hell and the obvious has happened to me and i have not had sex with a woman in years. I understand that everyone is different and i can identify with a dl dude not wanting to come out.
Being black and gay is ridiculous. We are not as proud as our counterparts (well some of us) but we are not invisible. The funny thing is that i can remeber feeling sick to my stomach after having sex with a man. I couldn't even look myself in the mirror. and i am gay. It's kinda like a disorder or sumthing. some people think they are born that way. I personaly don't. Anyone can change there actions if they find god and work hard to fight temptations cause some of the repricousions are not worth it, BELIEVE ME. Some men are just selfish.I myself have been selfish. We all have a deep rooted problem with lust. There are alot of reasons for this but im not going to get into that. I think the more we talk about this the less women will be infected and vice versa. It's crazy now that the black women are at the biggest risk. That's just not right.
Now don't get me wrong im not skinny as hell and i don't have any leisions or anything. you can't tell even if you tried. Im on some ole protect yourself shit now. these low key gay dudes are real. VERY real and they do somewhat contribute to the problem. But isn't up to you to protect yourself?
I didn't protect myself and now i am positive. it's not the end of the world. i don't know who gave it to me because i have been a mess in the past. I have had sex with gays,dl's and husbands. I have to account for my actions.
I PRAY everynight that my retartedness hasn't affected anyone else. It's so easy to spread and i don't think people realise the numbers among BLACK MEN and WOMEN. It's not a question of "am i gonna get it" it's a question of "WHEN am i gonna get it" these days.
Women don't fully blame the men. Just PLEASE protect YOURSELF. there is life after the diesease and it's not as bad as some think. but if you want to have kids and live a wholesome prosperous life without having a time clock put on it follow my advice.
Posted by: crazyazhell2004 at Nov 18, 2004 7:17:31 PM
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Posted by: stephanie at Dec 5, 2004 12:44:20 PM
I just discovered that my boyfriend was on the DL. It was devastating to discover this. He still does not know that I know and I won't. I just simply broke up the relationship. However I will say this. I CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE A CHRISTIAN WOMAN. FROM EARLY ON I SUSPECTED "SOMETHING WAS NOT RIGHT WITH HIM". I COULD NEVER PIN MY FINGER ON IT UNTIL THE BLESSED DAY THAT GOD UNCOVERED IT TO ME (IN THE FORM OF A VOICE MESSAGE FROM HIS DL LOVER THAT I HAPPENED TO HEAR)SO WOMEN BE CAUTIOUS AND ALWAYS GO WITH YOUR GUT FEELING. AS FOR YOU DL BROTHAS WE ALL HAVE FALLEN SHORT OF GODS GLORY IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER. NO SECRET IS KEPT FOREVER, GOD HAS A WAY OF BRINGING LIGHT INTO DARK SPACES. CHOOSE LIFE CHOOSE GOD AND REPENT. TO ALL HAPPY NEW YEAR BOTH DL OR OPENLY GAY.
Posted by: YAH YAH at Jan 4, 2005 12:47:20 AM
Dont FULLY blame the men, this blame shit makes me sick, we are created equal but some people still dont see that obviously. Thier are problems in society thier always will be but trying to blame other people for your own problems will only lead to mental death.
Posted by: jo at Jan 18, 2005 2:57:57 AM
DL Thugs should not have to come out of the closet because they do not act gay.If you act gay and feminen then your just jealous thay you cant be on the DL like all my THUG BROTHAS.
Posted by: Jeremiah at Apr 19, 2005 1:41:35 PM
